Where Do Old Fans Go?

Note: My articles are based solely on my thoughts and observations. Normally I do not offer statistics, although at times I may reference what different broadcasters, among others, have said or alluded to. The following article was written back when I was writing for Race Fans Forever. I think it still applies to us long time fans. Thank you.

I am what is called “an old fan” or “long time fan” of NASCAR racing. There are also many other phrases or names used to describe stock car race fans like myself, who have been avid fans since the 1950’s. We have been called everything one can possibly imagine, from a crazy idiot to very knowledgeable and wise about the sport. Sometimes we are referred to as fans who just want to live in the past and cannot accept all the changes that have come about since the beginning of the sport. We do not want to live in the past, but as one grows older, sometimes it is our memories from the past that sustains us.

Thinking back on all that has happened during the years since I became a fan of auto racing, has made me stop and think of all the changes throughout the last six plus decades.

People have changed throughout each of these decades. We were very naive back in the 50’s and 60’s. We were full of wonderment and excitement over this new thing called stock car racing. That is truly what it was then – stock car racing. Stock cars that had moved from deserted back roads to tracks that were built by those who either wanted to create a league or group of professional racers, or by those just looking to make money from this new sport. Many tracks came and many tracks were abandoned during those years.

Dirt tracks became plentiful and locals plied their expertise to racing their own vehicles which they converted into race cars. The rules were lax and innovation was used in abandon. Soon, rules were needed to control the chaos that had been happening at some of the local tracks. Most of the drivers/racers only had volunteer pit crews. Most of these mechanics, body men (including painters), machinists, and what we called gophers, were strictly volunteer help. If one got the right group of people helping, then he normally did very well. Many among us regular contributors here at PTR participated in some manner at the local tracks near us. We loved it and we thrived when our racer did well. Sometimes, we would tow the race car 3 to 400 miles to reach a specific track that paid well. Many times though, the cost of preparing the race car and traveling, including food, outweighed the money taken in. One might conclude that it was more of a hobby, rather than a profession.

When I was involved in local racing, I did miscellaneous gopher type jobs which included selling tickets and pit passes. Once all the cars had checked in, I would then go to our pit to help with helmet prep by attaching the tear offs and polishing it. Next, it was time to wipe the car down, check the seat belt connections, among other last-minute details. I was part of the team, but once the races were ready to start, I would rush to the tower to assist in counting laps. That was a manual job then and I lost quite a few stopwatches during those times. I also did some picture taking, verifying how names were spelled and making sure the information was correct about where they were from. The 6 tracks we ran were in Northern California and Northwestern Nevada.

These are the types of memories we should try to keep alive for the history of auto racing. Some of the professional racers today had the same kind of experiences at their local tracks. However, with the new technologies available, some never had the unique experience of working on their own cars or interacting with strictly a volunteer group of pit crew people. Many of volunteer people not only donated their time, but many times donated parts, fuel or even money and food for the crew while helping prepare a winning car.

Time has passed, and now many of us are older and we can no longer do the things we used to do or travel to tracks, so the big question is: What do we do now and where do we go? To answer that, I did some soul searching and came to the following conclusion. We watch racing on television and often make comparisons to how it used to be. We try to decipher the feelings of drivers and the broadcast teams and usually form opinions which may or may not be right. We criticize, often harshly, because we feel they are not serving the fans. A lot of us think perhaps we could do a better job, but could we really? People change as do the times and what may have been important then, may not be important now. We have to change in order to grow and since the way life and other things have advanced, if we don’t change, then perhaps we cannot really or rightfully compare then to now. The most important thing I feel we should do is just to preserve and pass on the history as we knew it and experienced it. Stop and think about the following: We can’t go back and re-live the past, nor can we change it. Therefore, let’s pass it down as accurately as we can. That is one thing older or longtime fans can do and should do, for posterity.

Thank you for reading and commenting here. Your thoughts, ideas on the subject and opinions are very welcome. I remind you to keep them clean and no bashing, please.

Vivian Simons

Photo Credit (cover): Pinterest among others!

7 comments

  1. Wonderful memories of a golden time. Thanks, Vivian, for giving some insight into the golden days of stock car racing.

    1. Hi David. Thank you for reading and commenting. Funny, but you are one that I thought would enjoy this article. Our memories are so precious and I love sharing them or expressing thoughts on what once was a great sport.

  2. Just a bit of information: The top picture which is a race on the sand at Daytona is very special to me. The red car, 3rd row, inside, is my Mentor, Dick Joslin. I worked with him at a Pontiac dealership in Orlando and for him at his local race track. Dick drove the first Dodge in the Daytona 500 in 1959 and finished 28th.

    1. Thanks for reading and thank you for commenting.
      Frankly, I am glad to be out of CA, but am still close enough to make it to Home Depot and Walmart for shopping, although I hate paying their sales tax. We have none here in OR. Our closest local racing is about 100 miles away so tv is the answer for us.

  3. Thought provoking article Vivian! Thanks.

    Preserving history and passing it down as accurately as possible is one thing only we can do and must do.

    The other thing I think we can do is to do what we can to introduce family and friends to the sport, however we can. Most Old Fans story of how they got into the sport was from a family member or friend who made the introduction. Old fans make up 80% of the sports demographic. Who is in a better position to do it than the Old Fans?

    Sadly, there are too many today who think that the best way to show how great the sport is today is to diminish the past. If Old Fans don’t preserve and pass along the past, it’s either going to be lost or preserved inaccurately to promote a false narrative. I’m not sure which is worse but neither is good.

    The thing that troubles me the most is there is a growing movement within the sport who feel that where Old Fans should go is anywhere but in the sport… that if only the sport could purge this plague known as Old Fans the sport would return to its former glory and all will be well. It’s a business growth model through division and subtraction, which has been tried before and resulted in a loss of a generation of fans that the sport is struggling to recover.

    Old Fans are easy scapegoats for everything wrong. They say we don’t accept or adapt to change but yet we have seen more change than any new, Desired Demographic fan has ever seen… and we’re still here.

    Ask a new fan, who has seen more change in racing or life in general-them or their parents, or them or their grandparents?

    And the fact that an Old Fan is still in the sport, when goodness knows they have had plenty of opportunities to go do something more productive and less frustrating speaks to their adaptatability…

    Who can go to a race without having individual seats, bar tables, party zones, pickleball courts and concerts… just go to a race for a race-New Fans or Old?

    Old Fans are criticized because they hamstring the Sanctioning Body and keep them from doing what they truly want to do. The truth is change has already been decided on and is in motion before Old Fans find out. We don’t make decisions or even influence decisions but at best react to them. Our concerns or displeasure has yet to stop the SB from going forth-if that was the case we would have a season long championship to crown the Champ, no Stage Breaks, five lug nuts and the car numbers on the doors. Last I checked the SB did what they wanted.

    I find it funny that no one has problems with Old Fans if they want to buy tickets, spend money on merch, watch TV to get the viewership numbers up (they make up over 80% of current viewership), engage with radio or social media to keep those shows going and click counts up to show popularity and relevance, plug into podcasts and YouTube channels and view articles on websites to keep those going. All of that is acceptable and welcomed.

    But if ever is heard a discouraging word, you need to get out of here. You aren’t a true fan. You don’t met our standards and expectations..

    I don’t know the answer to the question “Where Do the Old Fans Go?” but I do know if its not at the track or watching or listening or engaging in some form, shape or manner, the sport suffers and its chances for growth is hampered.

    Unfortunately, too many have found other places to go… for whatever reason.

    And that’s concerning… and very sad.

    Thanks again Vivian. Sorry for the rant.

  4. David, you made some great points and it sounds almost like a part 2 on Old Fans. How about turning it into an article? I think it would make a good one…

    Thanks so much for reading and commenting. I always look forward to what you write, whether it is an article you post or responses to articles by others!

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